by Sheila Covarrubias
The City Development Council early this week unanimously approved a resolution expressing vehement objections to the proposed inclusion of Zamboanga City in the proposed Autonomous Region in Southwestern Mindanao (ARSwM), one of the autonomous regions sought to be created under two bills filed in the 15th Congress.
The resolution, authored by Barangay chairman Nadz Sampang of Campo Islam, specifically cited 3 issues: the inclusion of Zamboanga in the proposed region; the plan to make Zamboanga City as a capital of the proposed ARSwM and the proposal to base the plebiscite results on a per barangay basis.
The measure was addressed to Congressman Feliciano Belmonte, Speaker of the House and copy furnished to Cong. Beng Climaco, House Deputy Speaker for Mindanao.
The CDC, chaired by Mayor Celso Lobregat on Tuesday (August 10) met at the Garden Orchid Hotel to discuss the Local Development Investment Plan (LDIP) for 2011-2013 and the Annual Investment Plan (AIP) for 2011, a prerequisite for the deliberations and consultations for the 2011 executive budget.
It was the consensus of the Council that the two bills—House Bill 173 filed by former president and now Pampanga Representative Gloria Arroyo and her son Rep. Diosdado Arroyo of Camarines Sur and House Bill 143 of Tawi-tawi solon Nur Jaafar which was first introduced in the 14th Congress and also refiled the same day as that of Arroyo.
The Arroyo and Jaafar bills propose the creation of two autonomous regions, propose the creation of two autonomous regions: Autonomous Region for Central Mindanao (ARCeM) and the Autonomous Region for Southwestern Mindanao (ARSwM). Both proposals call for the conduct of a plebiscite in each and every barangay in the provinces proposed to be included in each of the two regions.
Except for the schedule of the plebiscite and the capital of the proposed regions, all the other provisions of the 2 bills are identical. Arroyo’s bill proposes the plebiscite to be held simultaneously with the barangay elections in October this year while the Jaafar bill proposes the plebiscite to be held simultaneously with the local and national elections in May 2013.
The Arroyo bill designates Zamboanga City as the seat of the ARSwM and Cotabato as the capital of the ARCeM while the Jaafar bill identifies Sangali, Sibugay as the capital of ARSwM and Cotabato for the ARCeM.
Mayor Lobregat warned that dismemberment or gerrymandering of the city and Mindanao—one issue that the Zamboanguenos steadfastly fought against during the MOA-AD/BJE days last 2008, will most likely happen if and when the proposal to base the plebiscite results on a per barangay basis, will push through.
Many times over, the city of Zamboanga has voted to be out of the autonomous region of Muslim Mindanao including the MOA-AD/BJE and all other entities in whatever form or name.
The CDC is composed of the 98 barangay chairmen, representatives from the non-government organizations, the office of the mayor, city department heads including the two congressmen and the chairmen of the Council committee on Appropriation and Barangay Affairs.
At least 81 of the 98 barangay chairmen and all of invited representatives from the civil society were physically present during the CDC meeting.
Primarily, the CDC approved the proposed LDIP and the P1.9 billion AIP which includes mostly projects and programs based on the 10 priority agenda of the local government under the City Development Strategy (CDS).
Other resolutions approved during the meeting included the measure adopting the CDS as the executive legislative agenda of the city; measure reiterating support to the brand name Asia’s Latin City because of the uniqueness of Zamboanga as the only chabacano-speaking city in the country and entire Asia and a resolution requesting the establishment of persons with disabilities organizations in all of the city’s 98 barangays pursuant to Republic Act 1070.
NOW its "BATTLE OF THE TITANS" (lobregats,fabian,climaco VS gloria & datu arroyo,jaafar) for the inclusion of zamboanga city in ARMM...
ANOTHER VERSION IS,,,, ( KAPRE VS DWENDE) and ( DUGUNG VS BALYE...) LETS WAIT and SEE...
MY GUESS IS THAT THE SMALLER ONE WILL WIN THIS TIME....
ARSwM = SULU,TAWI-TAWI,BASILAN,PAGADIAN,DIPOLOG,SIBUGAY and ZAMBOANGAN...???
and CABATANGAN COMPLEX AS THE SEAT OF GOVERNMENT....
LONG LIVE ARMM,,,LONG LIVE BJE,,,LONGLIVE BANGSAMORO,,,,LONG LIVE "ZAMBOANGAN"...
T.Y. from eleven islands
YOU MAY HAVE NOT SEEN HOW MANY OR HOW MUCH IS THE WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS/PROJECTS LIKE BRIDGES AND OTHER INFRA IMPLEMENTED IN "ZAMBOANGAN" WHICH IS FOREIGN AID AND INTENDED FOR ARMM???
THEN YOU GO ARMM,,,HOW MUCH IS THE COLLECTION IN TAXES AND IRA OF EACH PROVINCE IN ARMM ???
WHAT IS THE RATIO OF DENSITY IN ARMM PROVINCES COMPARED TO zamboanga ??? IF YOU FOUND THESE CORRUPT LEADERS( TUTA NG MALACANYANG) BUILD THEIR MANSIONS IN THEIR LOCALITY,,AS YOU HAVE SEEN THEM AND ITS CONSTITUENT LANGUISHING IN DARKNESS AND POVERTY...THESE LEADERS(TUTA NG MALAKANYANG ARE "SHAYTAN" NOT MUSLIM....(PEKE)...
ITS NOT ALWAYS PEOPLE(LEADERS) IN ARMM ARE ALL CORRUPT,,,THE SAME IN zamboanga city...NOT ALL ARE SAINTS andd DOES NOT COMMIT CORRUPTION...WHAT IS IMPORTANT NOW IS FOR TOTAL REHABILITATION>>> POLITICAL AND PERSONAL INTEREST MUST BE DRAWN...WE CAN ALWAYS CHOOSE WHOM WE WANT TO BE OUR LEADERS...ON THE CONDITION THAT YOU DO NOT SELL YOUR RIGHT OF SUFFRAGE...
mr mountainer or MR ELEVEN ISLANDS may become leaders in their COMMUNITY and BRING FORTH PEACE and DEVELOPMENT WITH OUT STRINGS ATTACHED( Being Obliged to OTHERS) AS THIS IS THE CAUSE OF FAILURE
and DESTRUCTION..
I AM SURE mr mountainer is a good farmer, and i am very sure, i am a VERY GOOD FISHERMAN...TOGETHER WE CAN BRING FOODS TO OUR HUNGRY COMMUNITY...BECAUSE HUNGER/POVERTY NOW IS THE WORST CAuse of kidnappings,drugs,prostitution,thieves,hold-ups, piracy,killings,cheating wives, illigal gambling,kotong cops,padulas BIR, etc...etc..all because they are HUNGRY...our leaders,MR lobregat ET AL...IS FAR FROM MAKING "ZAMBOANGAN" to the LIKES of DAVAO,CEBU,CDO, and OTHERS.... they even DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KILLED IN zamboanga city FOR FOODS ONLY...theirs is only their POLITICAL SURVIVAL....maybe THRU BJE and ExPANDED ARMM,,,WE CAN CHANGE BOTH our leaders in zamboanga city and the corrupt leaders of ARMM...
We WILL MAKE A NEW BEGINNING....FOR "ZAMBOANGAN" ....were i was born ...live and will die....
THANKS...
LONGLIVE ARMM...LONGLIVE BJE....LONGLIVE BANGSAMORO...LONGLIVE "ZAMBOANGAN"...from ELEVEN ISLANDS...
The present ARMM region are no better than when they were before joining ARMM, no significant progress or peace. Muslims politicians from Jolo, Tawi-Tawi, and Basilan have all enriched themselves buyilding their empire and private armies and everyone knows how corrupt they are but very few muslims would go out and condemn them, why? These politicians are very powerful that they can 'silence' anyone opposing them through intimidation, bribery, and killing.
This is nothing new and has been going on for centuries and I find no reason or indication that if we change to ARMM that it would suddenly change and the poor muslims population would actually have a better life. It would still be the same corrupt system.
You have advocated Zamboanga be the center for ARMM but fail to show us how it would benefit us given the present ARMM region are no less better. Also, who would you be choosing as chairman for ARMM, Misuarri? If Nur Misuarri was christian and not a muslim would you still support him given his misappropriation of funds?
NO TO ARMM, NO TO BJE!
YOU AINT GOT the POINT....AGAIN...COMPARE THe CITY(zamboanga) COLLECTION, IRA,DONORS...THEN TOTAL IT ...WHERE IS IT NOW ???. THEN COMPUTE THE COLLECTION,IRA and DONORS IN ARMM PROVINCES??? WHERE IS IT NOW???
HOW MUCH TIME DID CHAIRMAN MISUARI GOVERNED ARMM??? HOW MUCH LONG DID the lobregats (mother and son ) GOVERN zamboanga city ???....WHAT KIND OF CITY YOU ARE SPEAKING (ZAMBOANGA CITY)...??? I CAN NOT SEE ANY THING THAT WILL SAY ZAMBOANGA HAD IMPROVED AND PROGRESSED UNDER THE lobregats...???
YOU MUST BE ALL BLIND and MUTE IF YOU CONCLUDE zamboanga is a PROGRESSIVE CITY....
DID YOU PASSED BY THE PUBLIC MARKETS???DID YOU SEE THE ZAMBOanga PORT??DID YOU GO TO "DEPRESSED MUSLIM BARANGAYS" ???DID YOU GO OUT THERE IN THE NIGHT AND SEE THE PROLIFERATION OF PROSTITUTION???IS YOUR CHILDREN NOT VULNERABLE TO DRUGS??? ARE YOU SLEEPING PEACEFULLY???ARE YOU TRAVELING ON THE ROADS/STREETS OF ZAMBOANGA SAFE??? DO YOU NEED NOT TO ACCEPT BRIBES(BIR and BOC)???IS THERE NO KOTONG COPS??? IS THERE NO HOLD-UPS???IS YOUR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL RECIEVED CONVINIENCE??? IS YOUR WATER AND POWER NEEDS SUBSTANCIAL???IS THERE NO DISCRIMINATION WHEN YOUR CHILDREN GOES FOR JOB INTERVIEW???DO YOU HAVE SAFE HIGHWAYS???CLEAN HOSPITALS???NICE COMMUNITY WITH GOOD EARNINGS AND LIVELIHOOD???IS THERE NO SENSELESS KILLINGS??? WHY IS IT TOO MUCH AFP AND PPOLICE MIXING IN THE HEART OF THE CITY ???
YOU FAILED ALL>>>
ANYWAY THERE ARE CERTAIN FACTORS YET YOU DIDNT SEE AND REALIZE THAT IS HAPPENING IN WHAT YOU CALL PEACEFUL and PROGRESSIVE zamboanga city....
JUST a RECAP...DURING THE 60s...THE MAYORS(CLIMACO,JALDON,FERRER AND ENRIQUEZ) USSUALLY GO TO "MUSLIM COMMUNITIES AND SPEAK WITH ITS LEADERS TO HELP BUILD PEACE IN THE CITY...I CAN STILL RECALL WHEN THEY COME TO OUR HOUSE THEY TALK TO MY FATHER(TINIENTE DEL BARRIO) AND JOKED WITH THEM AND WHEN ITS TIME TO GO,THEIR VEHICLE IS LOADED WITh MALAGKIT,MAIS,BANANNA, ITLOG,CHICKEN AND SOMETIMES GOATS AS A GESTURE OF "MUSLIM HOSPITALITY TO THE LEADERS(MAYORS)...IN RETURN,WHEN MY FATHER PAYS VISIT TO THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, HE IS WELCOMED WITh JOKES AND HOSPITALITY,EVEN THOUGH MY TOUGH FATHER PUTS HIS CALIBER .45 PISTOL ON THE TABLE and SIT ON THE TABLE INSTEAD OF THE CHAIR...THE MAYOR RESPONSE QUICKLY WITH SAYING" DA-A BE B*******L.."(DONT BE LIKE THAT B**********L...) and THEY LAUGH EMBRACING EACH OTHER.....THESE SHOWS HOW WE MUSLIMS and CHRISTIANS IN "ZAMBOANGAN" BEFORE...A VERY CORDIAL ENVIRONMENT TO LIVE IN HARMONY AND PEACE...
LOOK AROUND YOU NOW...AND THEN COMPARE,THEN and NOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT RELATIONSHIP????WHO BETRAYED??? IF YOU ARE INDEED A "ZAMBOANGAN" NATIVE....YOU WILL NOT JUST SHUT YOUR EYES....
EXPANDED ARMM and BJE CAN OR MAY BECOME A MEDIUM TO GENUINE and TRUE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY... IN THE NOW DEADLY YET POOR STREETS OF zamboanga city....
LEADERS LIKE CHAIRMAN MISUARI COULD HAVE BEEN A KEY...BUT HE WAS SHORT LIVED(IMPRISONED)BECAUSE HE DENIED TO BECOME A" TUTA OF MALAKANYANG)....YOU WILL CHOOSE YOUR OWN LEADERS, WHEN TIME COMES,,,,SAME WITH MY BELIEF...I WILL CHOOSE MY OWN LEADER...
LONG LIVE ARMM,,,,LONG LIVE BJE,,,,LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO....LONG LIVE" ZAMBOANGAN"....
THANKS...from eleven islands..
All what you say about Zamboanga's poor situation is true, but compare that to the ARMM region and Zamboanga becomes a paradise. What you're wishing for that Zamboanga be the center for ARMM is impossible firstly because majority of Zamboangenos have already said they don't want to be included in ARMM. Ta entende ba bo, NU KERE EL ZAMBOANGENOS- MUSLIM, CHRISTIANO, SUBANO, KEDA INCLUIDO NA ARMM. IT IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBOANGA AND MANILA CANNOT IMPOSE ITS WILL AGAINST IT!!!
But the most important thing is, HAVING TWO AUTONOMOUS ARMM GOVERNMENT IN MINDANAO IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!! This was already told by the supreme court. What you're fightling for is for Arroyo to change our government into a parliamentary system so she can become prime minister for life. You're writting as though you believe that she will really champion your cause for ARMM, she cares less about ARMM because she knows it will not pass into law. SHe's using this as a pawn for her own agenda.
The relationship between christians and Zambaongeno muslims is still the same. The present mayor may not be keen to muslim needs but just because I am a christian does not mean I am an anti-muslim and that goes without saying, christian Zamboangenos do not share the same view as the mayor. Furthermore, because you view him as anti-muslim, so you justify ARMM? If you so much dislike him, then change him, the person not the political system!
AHORA EL PREGUNTA PORKE KEDA ANTI-MUSLIM EL lobregat??? esos mga BO .CHAIRMAN MUSLIM TA man alyado con nel lobregat ay PURO(TODO) NUAY HUYA Y NUAY PRINSIPYO,PURO ESOS" besa buli" di celso...
Un EHEMPLO RECIENTE EL MATANSA NA TALON-TALON-MAMPANG-ARENA BLANCO...MGA MUSLIM EL VICTIMA,,HENDE LANG CIVILYAN,SENO MGA PULIS Y SOLDAW PA...EL KOSA YA SOSEDE SI HENDE PORCAWSA DEL MATANSA KONEL CONHESAL DAGALEA, UN CHRISTIANO...el mayor lobregat hinde ASE NADA KONEL SOLUTION NA MATANSA..".DE HALO KON ESOS MGA MUSLIm MAN MATAHAN"...ESE EL ANTI-MUSLIM,,(SCENE NO.1)...
JUST A RECAP.....POR KWANTOS ANYOS YA PASA>>>NECISSITA KITA PREPARAW>>> ESE LANG.....
HASTA MANYANA Y BUENAS DIAS...
LONG LIVE ARMM,,,LONG LIVE BJE,,,,LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,,,LONG LIVE "ZAMBOANGAN" ////
from eleven islands...
.JUST A RECAP.....POR KWANTOS ANYOS YA PASA>>>NECISSITA KITA PREPARAW>>> ESE LANG.....
HASTA MANYANA Y BUENAS DIAS...
LONG LIVE ARMM,,,LONG LIVE BJE,,,,LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,,,LONG LIVE "ZAMBOANGAN" ////
from eleven islands...
THe WAY I INTERPRET YOUR ANALYSIS AND PRESUMPTION IS THAT IF EVER "zamboanga city"becomes PART OF ARMM and BJE,,,IS THAT WE WILL (ZAMBOANGAN) BE HAVING A MAYOR OR A GOVERNOR TO LIKES OF WHAT IS IN YOUR MIND ,LIKE THE AMPATUANS(MURDERERS) OR THE OTHER CONGRESSMEN AND MAYORS WHO IS WORSHIPING MONEY???
WE HAVE TERRITORIAL DEFINITION,,,"ZAMBOANGAN" HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE A NEW GOVERNOR, MAYOR, ASSEMBLYMEN,,,ETC>>ETC>> WHO KNOWS THE GOVERNOR MAYBE A "ZAMBOANGAN" NATIVE...WHAT IS SURE IS THAT THE MAYOR,CONGRESSMEN and ASSEMBLYMAN FOR "ZAMBOANGAN" IS DEFINITELY A "ZAMBOANGAN" ONE...ITS CALLED AUTONOMY and YOU EVERY RIGHT TO CHOOSE YOUR LEADER...
FOR SURE A "ZAMBOANGAN" ONE WILL NEVER BE THE LIKES OF THE AMPATUANS WHICH BECAME A SIGNATURE FOR ARMMs CORRUPTION...
THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT "ZAMBOANGAN" WILL BOLSTER ITS PEACE AND DEVELOPMENT AGENDA WITH A SHARE FROM OUTSIDE AIDS LEGALLY...MAYBE WE CAN HAVE MORE SHARE AND DEVELOPMENT...
LONG LIVE ARMM...LONG LIVE BJE....LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO...LONGLIVE 'ZAMBOANGAN"......
THANKS...from eleven islands....
DEMOCRACY AS YOU SAID< there is no dominating,,,only public service...THERE ARe POINTS ALSO THAT IN PUBLIC SERVICE....YOU MUST NOT OPINED WITH YOURSELF OF HOLDING TO YOUR TIME,WEALTH,MONEY SPACE and POWER...WHETHER YOU ARE WALKING,,STANDING,,SITTING,,OR EVEN SLEEPING...
SO...IF YOU ALIGNED AND INVOLVED YOURSELF AMONG THIS FACTOR,,YOU BECOME CORRUPTED...THAT HAPPENS TO THESE PEOPLE( MUSLIM LEADERS-TUTA)...
YOU SAID DEMOCRACY HAS THE POWER TO CHANGE OUR LEADERS,,,ONE OF WHICH IS THRU ELECTION...
ELECTION AS IT IS WIDELY ACCEPTED IS A "CORRUPTION" ITSELF...THE RESULT IS A CORRUPT LEADER/S...
POLITICIANS ARE 100% CORRUPT...NEXT IS THE PROCESS(ELECTION)...
MY POINT IS...TIME, IS THE MOST CONVENIENT MEDIUM TO ERADICATE CORRUPTION...YOU CONTINUE CORRUPTING OR YOU CAN STOP IT...
WHEN YOU SUPPORT AND HELPED PEOPLE WHO ARE CORRUPT...YOU YOURSELF IS CORRUPT...THIS IS WHY I COME TO THE POINT THAT CORRUPTION CAN BE ERADICATED AND TERMINATED...
IF INDEED THERE IS NO CORRUPTION IN THE CHRISTIAN TYPE OF GOVERNANCE IN THE CITY OF ZAMBOANGA TODAY...THE CITY MUST HAVE BEEN THE LIKES OF MAKATI CITY,DAVAO CITY,CEBU CITY.CAGAYAN DE ORO CITY AND MANY MORE CITIES WHO IS RANKED AS "FIRST CLASS CITY" PWE...
IF REALLY THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN THE BANK, WHY DO YOU HAVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS...WHERE IS THE SKY WAY OR FLY OVER BRIDGE,WHERE ARE THE ROAD WIDENING??,WHERE IS THE DRAINAGE TO CONTROL FLOODING?? THAT WILL SOLVE ONE SIMPLE TRAFFIC PROBLEM..
WHERE IS POWER AND WATER SYSTEM WHICH HAUNTS BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USERS BADLY NEEDS???WHERE IS YOUR PEACE AND ORDER COUNCIL THAT WILL PROTECT YOU FROM DANGERS LIKE KIDNAPPINGS???
WHY IS THERE NO SMALL ENTERPRISE THAT WILL HELP THE POOR VENDORS IN THE PUBLIC MARKET ,WHO ARE PREYED BY "BOMBAYS" AND USURERS(5-6)..IF THE CITY GOVERNMENT PUT UP SOFT LOANS TO THESE VENDORS,THEN THEY ALREADY ADDRESSED THE LIVELIHOOD OF THESE POOR PEOPLE AND STILL THEY STOPPED USURY AND ILLEGAL MONEY TRADE....
AFTER FIFTEEN LONG YEARS OF DYNASTY ANd POWER IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT STILL "ZAMBOANGAN" NEVER MOVED FORWARD...YET YOU ARE ALL CONTENDED HAPPILY,,,TOGETHER WITH THOSE MUSLIMS WHO ALREADY SUPPORT THE PRESENT CONDITION OF"ZAMBOANGAN"..PWE...
MY INTENSION IS ONLY TO LET YOU LOOK AROUND THE CITY...AND NOT TO COMPARE IT WITH ARMM PROVINCES....IF YOU ARE SATISFIED SO BE IT...FOR ME THERE MUST BE CHANGE...SPECIALLY IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM....(I DONT HAVE ANY RESERVATION FOR THOSE CORRUPT/TUTA LEADERS IN ARMM)
LONG LIVE ARMM,,,LONG LIVE BJE,,,LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,,,LONG LIVE "THE SHA-RIA LAW....
THANKS GENTLEMEN...
from eleven islands...
THe WAY I INTERPRET YOUR ANALYSIS AND PRESUMPTION IS THAT IF EVER "zamboanga city"becomes PART OF ARMM and BJE,,,IS THAT WE WILL (ZAMBOANGAN) BE HAVING A MAYOR OR A GOVERNOR TO LIKES OF WHAT IS IN YOUR MIND ,LIKE THE AMPATUANS(MURDERERS) OR THE OTHER CONGRESSMEN AND MAYORS WHO IS WORSHIPING MONEY???
WE HAVE TERRITORIAL DEFINITION,,,"ZAMBOANGAN" HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE A NEW GOVERNOR, MAYOR, ASSEMBLYMEN,,,ETC>>ETC>> WHO KNOWS THE GOVERNOR MAYBE A "ZAMBOANGAN" NATIVE...WHAT IS SURE IS THAT THE MAYOR,CONGRESSMEN and ASSEMBLYMAN FOR "ZAMBOANGAN" IS DEFINITELY A "ZAMBOANGAN" ONE...ITS CALLED AUTONOMY and YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHOOSE YOUR OWN LEADER...
FOR SURE A "ZAMBOANGAN" ONE WILL NEVER BE THE LIKES OF THE AMPATUANS WHICH BECAME A SIGNATURE FOR ARMMs CORRUPTION...
THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT "ZAMBOANGAN" WILL BOLSTER ITS PEACE AND DEVELOPMENT AGENDA WITH A SHARE FROM OUTSIDE AIDS LEGALLY...MAYBE WE CAN HAVE MORE SHARE AND DEVELOPMENT...
LONG LIVE ARMM...LONG LIVE BJE....LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO...LONGLIVE 'ZAMBOANGAN"......
THANKS...from eleven islands....
Whatever you're tring to say, We have established already that Zamboanga would be better without being under ARMM. If you were born here, then you should know better. We are now moving on with our own lives working hard to make it better. All of us Moros have the right to live better lives and I've found it here. As I said before, This is not a perfect government in Zamboanga, but I am contented with it than the one in ARMM. How long has it been since ARMM was established? How much funds have been collected, allocated and been redirected to personal pockets since its existence. How many "BRIDGES" has been promised and imaginarily construct for ARMM constituents? Yes, There may be corruption in Zamboanga, but I find corruption in ARMM the worst. So, if you want to be under ARMM, GO TO ARMM, and stay there. You deserve it, mr. eleven islands. Salam.
UN TYEMPO KWANDO TAN GYERA EL MGA MUSLIM ALLI NA RIO-HONDO,,,YA ANDA DALI-DALI EL BYEHO MAYOR PARA MANDA KALYA Y MANTIENA PAZ KON EL TAN GYERA,MASKI NA PELIGRO EL DI SUYO VIDA....
UN TYEMPO TA TIENNE MASSAKER ALLI NA TICTAPUL Y NO MANS LAND YA,,,NUAY KOSA PENSANDO YA ANDA EL BYEHO MAYOR PARA SALVA KON EL MGA MUSLIM...MASKI PELIGRO...
SI TIENNE KALAMIDAD,,KEMA Y TEMBLOR.TALLI EL BYEHO MAYOR,,,,
SI TIENNE OKASYON EL MGA MUSLIM KOMO HARI-RAYA, TALLI EL BYEHO MAYOR TA SIGE TA CELEBRA..
SI TIENNE PROBLEMA EL MGA MUSLIM,GRANDE Y DIYUTAY,,TALLI EL AYUDA DEL BYEHO MAYOR...
ESE UN MAYOR PRO- MUSLIM....( SCENE NO.2)
EL PREGUNTA PORKE KEDA masussyu y yede y delikaw para na viviente el ciudad zamboanga? KUMPARANDO NA CIUDAD KOMO EL CEBU,DAVAO,CAGAYAN DE ORO,BUTUAN,DIPOLOG Y OTRO PA///
DEBERASAN BIEN MAKAHUYA EL ARMM PROVINCES..POBRE YA CORRUPT PA...DI BA???
AHORA SI MAN TIENE LEY(law) TA INCLUHI KON EL "ZAMBOANGAN" NA ARMM...TODOS KITA VIVIENTES DEL CIUDAD AY KWALIPIKAW PARTICIPA NA ELECTION..DE ATON EL ETCHO PARA ESCUHI Y ELLIHE CON UN '' ZAMBOANGAN'' MAN PARA KEDA DE ATUN LIDER Y LLEBA CON EL ZAMBOANGA CITY PARA UN CIUDAD MAS ADELANTAW,PROGRESIBO Y BIEN PAZ....
ESE LIDER NECISSITA ELE PARTIAL Y TRATA EGUALMENTE KON EL CIUDADES 'ZAMBOANGAN'
ANSINA YA LANG ANAY....GRACIAS...
from eleven islands..
Your hatred for the Lobregats and their administrative decisions does not equate to Zamboanga's inclusion in ARMM, it does not follow any logic. You have said yourself that before under a popular mayor, you were content, so again, why change the entire political system when all you want is a change in Zamboanga's leadership? If I remember correctly, BJE-AD had only a portion of Zamboanga and not the entire city, this was the reason why Zamboangeno muslims opposed it since it causes divisiveness. Also, Tausugs, Samals, and Yakans said they did not want a muslim from central Mindanao to represent them. Under ARMM, Zamboanga will be under the leadership of the autonomous region and not Philippines. I happen to like the leadership of Pres. Noy Aquino (which clearly shows a trend against corruption) and not one under a 'militant' muslim or corrupt politician.
You seem to be all alone in this quest for Zamboanga's inclusion in ARMM as all of the reader's comment disagree with you. I think this will be my last comment as it seems I have proven my point- ZAMBOANGA'S INCLUSION IN ARMM WILL NOT END BLOODSHED AND VIOLENCE, NOR WILL IT END POVERETY , IT WILL BE WORST. YOU FIND NEGATIVE NEWS ABOUT ZAMBOANGA AND JUSTIFY WHY IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM ARMM- BUT THERE ARE MORE NEGATIVE NEWS IN THE ARMM REGION TO JUSTIFY WHY WE SHOULD NOT JOIN ARMM.
NO TO ARMM, NO TO BJE-AD. ZAMBOANGA FOR ZAMBOANGENOS!!!!!!!!!!
isang hirit pa,,,,WHY NOT ELABORATE THE ORGANIC ACT FOR ARMM???...the system there is TOTALLY DIFFERENt FROM WHAT IS BEING RUN (BY THE TUTA OF MALAKANYANG/HUNGRY FOR PERSONAL SURVIVAL AND DOES NOT CARE FOR THE INTEREST OF THE POOR)...MAYBE YOU TELL ME WHO IS THE LEADER FROM ZAMBOANGAN WHO IS NOT BIAS,,, AS IT SEEMS YOU KNOW ALL THE CORRUPT GOVERNORS,MAYORS,CONGRESSMEN FROM DIFFERENT ARMM PROVINCES... IF YOU HAVE THE HEART FOR A CHANGED AND PROGRESSIVE "ZAMBOANGAN"
AKEL LIDER DONDE TA ETCHA APRUERA EL PERSONAL INTEREST>>>.
TO ALL THOSE MUSLIM LEADERS( TODO)...SPECIALLY BO.CHAIRMANS WHO SUPPORTS the LOBREGATS WERE JUST THE SAME AS THOSE CORRUPT LEADERS OF ARMM...BESA BULI DE celso Y el malakanyang....
AHORA SI TIENNE LUGAR Y LEY PARA KITA KON ESOS...PORKE MAN HENDE???
THE CITy HAS BECOME HAVEN OF CRIMINALS AND CORRUPTORS,,BECAUSE THERE IS NO JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT RUNS AS A CEILING TO CURTAIL BAD ELEMENTS,INCLUDING BAD LEADERS... POOR IS "ZAMBOANGAN",,,,YOU ALL BURN IN HELL....
LONG LIVE ARMM....LONG LIVE BJE...LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,,,LONG LIVE THE "SHARIA LAW"....
gracias...
from eleven islands
when i was in the middle east,,,the arabs respects muslim from mindanaw...only christians kissed the ass of their boss arabs...maybe you have tried that yourself....ha ha ha...yari da aku bagay ha higad-higad...
waiting....
from eleven islands
EL SABE QUE TIENE EL APOYO DESDE MUCHOS SITIOS.
VIVA LA PAZ!
WHEN THERE IS NO JUSTICE CLEARLY DELIVERED TO THE VICTIMS...then SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THe SYSTEM....example the delay in bringing to justice of those culprits in the recent Mampang-Arena Blanco-Talon-Talon Senseless Killings Indicates the Absence of a TRUE and Effective JUstice System...HENCE THERE WAs CORRUPTION ALONG THE COURSE...
WHEN THe POLITICIANS ENRICHED THEMSELVES NOT ONLY OF MONEY and POWER BUT ALSO UTILIZING THE TIME MANDATED TO THEM and NOt INFORMING OF THE WHOLE SCENARIO and COSTS IN PARTICULAR, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE POOR PEOPLE WHICH DEEm PROVIDED FOR...then there is CORRUPTION...
WHEN THe MASSES DOES NOT QUESTION OR IS SILENT IN THE ISSUE,,WHETHER FOR OR AGAINTS...THIS INDICATES THAT THERE IS CORRUPTION...
FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT OF ZAMBOANGA IN PARTICULAR,,,WITH BILLIONS IN THE COFFERS,,DEPOSITED IN THE BANK???EARNING INTERESTS??...I HESITANTLY CONTRADICTS THE FACTS THAT THERE IS NO CORRUPTION HAPPENING INSPITE OF THESE RESERVES...
THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT IS NOW ACTING WILD TO SELL GOVERNMENT OWNED CORPORATIONS,,,WILD IN COLLECTING TAXES,,,WILD IN TRYING TO OBTAINED LOANS AND FINANCIAL AID FROM OUTSIDE WORLD.. BORROW .MONEY TO FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURES LIKE ROADS,HOSPITALS,SCHOOL BUILDINGS,BRIDGES.ETC...ETC..and THUS ADDRESS THE NECESSITY OF THE COUNTRY....
NOW...zamboanga city government HAS THe MONEY IN THE BANK??? FOR WHAT IS THIS??...THIS IS TO JUSTIFY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATIONS(lobregat) THAT IN HIS STEWARDSHIP HE BROUGHT MONEY TO THE CITY...GOOD FOR HIM...BUT BAD FOR THE CITY...
LET US ACCEPT THE REALITY OF THE CONDITION OF THE CITY THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE....
WHY NOT USE THE MONEY TO HELP THE NEEDY AND THE POOR...LIKE PROVIDING LIVELIHOOD ASSISTANCE THRU SOFT LOANS TO OUR FARMERS,FISHERMEN,VENDORS and SMALL MANUFACTURERS...TO USE THESE MONEY FOR ASSISTANCE WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THE FOOD PRODUCTION AND GENERATE JOBS...
LIKEWISE USE THESE MONEY TO BUY TECHNOLOGIES AND FACILITIES THAT WILL HELP SECURE AND CLEAN OUR CITY...CONSTRUCT MORE SCHOOL BUILDINGS,HOSPITALS AND OTHER PUBLIC INFRAS.THIS WILL ADDRESS THE SHORTAGE OF CLASSROOMS AND HOSPITAL BEDS IN THE CITY...CONSTRUCT FLY OVERS AND IMPROVE THE ROAD CONDITION TO HELP ELIMINATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND MINIMIZE ACCIDENTS...APPROPRIATE INCENTIVES TO POLICE FORCE AND OTHER AUTHORITIES ADMINISTERING PEACE AND ORDER...CREATE MORE JOBS AND PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIP TO DESERVING OUT OF SCHOOL YOUTHS....
BUT...BUT...WHEN THE PEOPLE IS ITSELF IS CORRUPT....THEN ACCEPT THE NOW zamboanga city....STINKY ODOR,TRAFFIC PROBLEM,KIDNAPPINGS,STRAFFINGS,SENSELESS KILLINGS,MURDERERS ON THE LOOSE,DRUGS,"POK-POK",KOTONG COPS,PATONG BIRS,LAGAY ENGINEERS,UN-EMPLOYMENT,ROAD ACCIDENTS,NO PARKING AREAS,NO BUS TERMINALS,BASURA,AKYAT BAHAY,SNATCHERS,HOLD-UPS,NO WATER,BROWN-OUTS....ETC...ETC....and KEEP THE MONEY IN THE BANK....
IT IS NOT ONLY IN ARMM THAT CORRUPTION HAPPENS,,,,I BET YOU CHECK YOUR OWN BARANGAY...YOU CAN FIND ALL ANSWERS....
IF WE WANT "ZAMBOANGAN" CITY TO BECOME FAMOUS AND RENOWNED...LET US CHANGE THE SYSTEM,,,THE LEADERS,,,THEN WE CHANGED OURSELVES...
I NEVER HAD INCLINATION WITH THE MILFs...NOR I WAS BUSTED BY" celso"...HE EVEN HELPED ME GET PAID OF WHAT IS DUE TO US...I DONT HAVE PERSONAL GRUDGES WITH ANYBODY in the city...IT IS ONLY THE SYSTEM WHICH IS SO PERSONAL...THEY DO NOT SEE THE POOR PEOPLE...EVEN THOUGH CORRUPT...
LONG LIVE ARMM...LONG LIVE BJE...LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,,,LONG LIVE THE" SHA-RIA LAW"...
THANKS AGAIN,,,
from eleven islands...
As said previously by twelve mountains, this is not a perfect government. we acknowledge that. But if you really think Celso is so corrupt and think you can do better job, why didn't you run against him last election? To be very objective about all that has been said in this thread, I would like to see you run next election. Let's see if you have a better platform. let' see if you're man enough to deserve our attention
Until then, either put up or shut up!
just have patience...when zamboanga city is officially included in ARMM ...i will Do YOUR PROPOSITION...he...he..he..
by the way...theres nothing wrong if you consider my VIEW...and that you can HELP ALLEVIATE the POOR CONDITION OF zamboanga city....bien yede ya,,,delicado pa...dale tamen kamo mira cosa pwede dale muy OLOROSO NOMBRE para el URGULLO MINDANAO Y CIUDAD De FLORES.... gracias...
from eleven islands..
The PEOPLe OF zamboanga city as compared to ARMM Provinces MUST be GRATEFUL to have a LESS CORRUPT LEADERS,,,UNLIKE ARMM...who are more corrupt...
YOu KNOW SIR james...BUENO LANG ESCONDE CORRUPTION EL ZAMBOANGENYO CONTRA CON EL MORO...el moro taman corrupt cara-cara,,,el zamboangenyo pa escondido....ESE EL VERDAD....
I STILL INSIST TO CHANGE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM in this LAGGED city....CHANGE TO A SYSTEM THAT WILL CHANGE ITS CORRUPT LEADERS...
MIND YOU...ITS NOT ONLY MONEY THAT IS ACCOUNTEd FOR CORRUPTION COMMITTED BY THIS"SHAYTAN"....
FOR A PUBLIC SERVANT WHOSE WILL IS TO SERVE...MUST FIRST AND FOREMOST "GOD FEARING"....DOES NOT HAVE ANY NOTION FOR HIS WEALTH,TIME,POWER,SPACE,LIFE...EVEN THOUGH WHEN HE IS WALKING,STANDING,SITTING and EVEN SLEEPING...
to have the kind of a leader that is" PRO GOD and PRO POOR" ...ONe BEST MOVE IS TO JOIN ARMM...and CONQUER THEM...and CHANGE THEM....HE HE HE ....SOUNDS RIDICULE,,,BUT DOABLE...NO BODY CHANGES FOR THE WORST...NOT EVEN INFANT...
LONG LIVE ARMM...LONG LIVE BJE...LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO...LONG LIVE "THE SHA-RIA LAW "..
THANKS AGAIN...
from eleven islands...
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100828/tph-sulu-gov-wants-failed-armm-abolished-ce44f36.html
Sulu gov wants ‘failed’ ARMM abolished
READ AND DISCERN. PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
My POINT ON ADHERING OF THe CITY OF ZAMBOANGA TO BE A PART OF ARMM/ BJE , DOES MEANT TO INCLUDE YOU GUYS,,,the CURRENT ARMM SYSTEM IS RUN BY THE LEADERS(TUTA NG MALAKANYANG)..IT IS ACTUALY REVERSED,,,I MEAN IT SHOULD BE THE SYSTEM THAT MUST GOVERN THESE LEADERS,AND NOT THE LEADERS GOVERN THE SYSTEM...THAT IS WHY ITS LEADERS WERE CORRUPTED.(DESIGNED BY MALACANAN)
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE IN MY COMMENTS,,,I FEEL I CAN SHARE MY VIEW WITH YOU ALL OUT THERE...PERHAPS NOT TIME YET TO SAY THANK YOU...
A BIT OF HALLUCINATING YOU GUYS,,,
WHO IS AMPATUAN?? THE DREADED MASTERMIND THAT MASSACRED 57 PEOPLE, A KNOWN GMA SUPPORTER,CERTIFIED CORRUPTOR....
WHO IS GOV.SAKUR TAN?? THE LEADER THAT IS NOW A TARGET OF ASSASSINATION(RECENTLY BY SUICIDE BOMBING DAW)...ASK YOURSELF WHY???
AND THIS CHAIRMAN NUR MISUARI,WHO IS HE??? HE IS THE ARMM GOVERNOR THAT WENT TO JAIL BECAUSE OF REBELLION AND NOT CORRUPTION...
AND WHY WOULD A WELL OF FAMILIES GOES OUTSIDE ARMM,LIKE CDO,DAVAO,CEBU...?? IT BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY WANTED SAFETY FOR THEIR FAMILIES,THEN CONTRIBUTE AS A PARTICIPACITING CITEZEN OF THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IS HARD TO DO IN ARMM PROVINCES...AND WHY?? THEY HAVE STRUGGLED AND SURVIVED THE CONTINUOUS BOMBS AND GUNS AND TROOPS AND AMMUNITION AND OPERATIONS THAT IS DELIVERED BY THE MILITARY...
IF ONLY IT WAS BOOKS,MEDICINES,FOODS,SCHOOL BUILDINGS,ROADS,HOSPITALS,BRIDGES,TECHNOLOGIES,IN GENERAL DEVELOPMENT AND LIVELIHOOD THAT WERE SENT BY THE GOVERNMENT TO ARMM,,,THEN PEACE MAYBE RESTED IN ARMM NOW...
SO THERE IS SPACE FOR INTERVENTION,,,ZAMBOANGA CITY INCLUSSION WILL BECOME THE IGNITION FOR A BETTER ARMM,,,BETTER LEADERS(from zamboanga citY) TO DOMINATE ARMM...
BECAUSE THE BELIEVE FOR A GOOD AND SUCCESSFUL LEADERS IS STILL IN "ZAMBONGAN"
AND GUYS...GUYS..'.FYI'...THIS MAN FROM ELEVEN ISLANDS IS A BONAFIDE ZAMBOANGAN RESIDENT.
WE BELIEVE IN THE LAW OF FREEDOM....
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LONG LIVE ARMM,LONG LIVE BJE,LONG LIVE BANGSA MORO,LONG LIVE THE "SHARIA LAW
thanks again,
from eleven islands....