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101Now@gmx.com
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 Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Salvation for Everyone |
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| PSALM 98:3 last pha. : "all the ends of earth have seen the salvation of our God" |
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saturn11
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Ahh you are depsnsive and avoids my question.. |
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| 101Now@gmx.com wrote: | | Still looking for the verse I see.. is it not salvation in God is being with God ? now and always , in our daily life ? then what do you call this daily events you are in the presence of God.. is it not experiencing God. |
How did you know it is the true God you're experiencing? By your crooked beliefs I would say it's not.
| 101Now@gmx.com wrote: | | ISAIAH 41:10 " so do not fear for I am with you, do not be dismayed for I a m your God. I will strengthen you and help you with my righteous right hand.. |
What are you quoting this for? Are you saying that the pronoun "you" actually refers to you? How much self-absorbed can an individual be?
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101Now@gmx.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: Is the word God directed to you alone ? |
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| iconoclast wrote: | | What are you quoting this for? Are you saying that the pronoun "you" actually refers to you? How much self-absorbed can an individual be? |
I am simply quoting it. You are the one who puts meaning to it ? I am pointing out words that applies to all who listens to the word of God. |
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101Now@gmx.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: There's only one God is is not ? |
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| iconoclast wrote: | | How did you know it is the true God you're experiencing? By your crooked beliefs I would say it's not. |
How did you know that my beliefs are crooked ? if this is so ---is there any straight belief then ? which is true then ? By your words you therefore labeled me - passed judgment that I do not believe in the true God is it not ?
I believe I have this question also posted to you "How do you know your God, and how do you come to a conclusion that your God is the one true God. have I not ? About faith and the meaning of faith ? You tell me then who is avoiding questions and resort to judgment and place label on others. |
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saturn11
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Is the word God directed to you alone ? |
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| 101Now@gmx.com wrote: | | I am pointing out words that applies to all who listens to the word of God. |
The verse does not apply to just about anyone who listens, much less you who interpret it incorrectly, but to the One who obeys the Word of God.
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saturn11
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: There's only one God is is not ? |
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| 101Now@gmx.com wrote: | | I believe I have this question also posted to you "How do you know your God, and how do you come to a conclusion that your God is the one true God. have I not ? About faith and the meaning of faith ? You tell me then who is avoiding questions and resort to judgment and place label on others. |
Hahaha. Nice try. You're the one who's avoiding, I did not answer your question simply because I still have a pending question that you did not answer.
| iconoclast wrote: | | How were you able to know that the one you experienced was God and not the Devil? |
You just bounced back the question to me, and claim I was the one avoiding. Com'on be honest at least.
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101Now@gmx.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: think evil and you shall do evil.. |
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I am not avoiding question nor do I avoid answering you.. I am seeking for answers ... looking for wisdom., pointing out to the knowledge I have gathered.. I come to questions this belief and faith simply because I am aware of what others have been doing in the name of faith ?
I feel that there are more to our existence. That's why the question is can God be really understand with our mind ? If this is so why has so many gone into the evil ways ? Why are there too much suffering in this world ? or the question can we just not live in harmony together in peace ?
If a persons thinks about evil he shall therefore have the tendency to do evil things ? and if one believe in the devil therefore he bears the fruit of evil is it not ?
If we then focus our mind to do good things therefore we will tend to do good things in our life. For God is love and a therefore those who believe in God will love one another.
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101Now@gmx.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: The Word of interpreted ! |
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| iconoclast wrote: | | The verse does not apply to just about anyone who listens, much less you who interpret it incorrectly, but to the One who obeys the Word of God. |
So your interpretation of the bible is absolutely correct ? and all others are wrong ? You said that I interpreted it incorrectly, therefore yours is correct is it ?
is this proclamation of yours is the true interpretation of the verses I spoke of ? How did you come to know it ?
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101Now@gmx.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: Do you know the Devil |
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| iconoclast wrote: | | Hahaha. Nice try. You're the one who's avoiding, I did not answer your question simply because I still have a pending question that you did not answer. |
I think I answered your question earlier...
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How were you able to know that the one you experienced was God and not the Devil? |
So do you know the Devil as well ? how do you know that ? |
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saturn11
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: Re: Do you know the Devil |
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And here is another ploy.
| 101Now@gmx.com wrote: | | I think I answered your question earlier... |
You think? Haha. You answered me with avoidance. I can bet you'll do it again.
Let me try again. You said salvation is through experience. Where in the Bible it is stated that "salvation is through experience?" The verses you quoted do not say anything like that. You're just imagining. And, yet another one. This one you keep on avoiding too. How did you know that it is not the Devil you're experiencing?
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I think this is a vague question. Everyone has sinned. How do you atone every sin you have committed ? Is there even a way to atone those ? Sometimes I honestly think if there is indeed a heaven, it has set too high of a standards for even the kindest people on earth to enter.
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saturn11
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| lamp_abi wrote: | | I think this is a vague question. |
Why?
| lamp_abi wrote: | | Everyone has sinned. How do you atone every sin you have committed ?Is there even a way to atone those ? |
Christians believes that the blood of Jesus is the one and only means for the atonement of sins done in the past. He did this once for everyone who believed and obeyed Him.
| lamp_abi wrote: | | Sometimes I honestly think if there is indeed a heaven, it has set too high of a standards for even the kindest people on earth to enter. |
If (in the first place) you don't believe heaven exists, then why do you believe it was set too high? How can something be set high if it does not exist?
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